mzintel
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Post by mzintel on Jun 1, 2009 21:00:14 GMT
It is my understanding that when the Royal title of HRH is removed from a previous titled HRH Royal it is called a Death. It is my opinion that Diana's Funeral was fashioned to mark n' reflect her title holder tenior in her role as an HRH. I don't think she physically died, but lost her HRH Title.
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Post by Ibelieveinfairytales on Jun 1, 2009 21:47:12 GMT
It is my understanding that when the Royal title of HRH is removed from a previous titled HRH Royal it is called a Death. Calling it a 'death' seems rather extreme. Look at Alexandra Manley from Denmark. She's the former wife of Prince Joachim of Denmark. During her marriage she was HRH. When they divorced she became HH Princess Alexandra. When she remarried she lost the HH Princess title altogether, and became the Countess of Frederiksbourg. A title the Queen bestowed upon her. I don't recall anywhere these title changes being described as a death. It is my opinion that Diana's Funeral was fashioned to mark n' reflect her title holder tenior in her role as an HRH. I don't think she physically died, but lost her HRH Title. I don't understand what you mean by this. Are you saying that she's still alive? |
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Post by HRISMH Duke Rico on Aug 10, 2009 13:29:42 GMT
It is my understanding that when the Royal title of HRH is removed from a previous titled HRH Royal it is called a Death. It is my opinion that Diana's Funeral was fashioned to mark n' reflect her title holder tenior in her role as an HRH. I don't think she physically died, but lost her HRH Title. Only if the former holder of the HRH held it in his/her own right, would it be possible to compare it to 'a death', as most former HRH's lost succession rights. (a notable exception would be Princess Matha Louise of Norway, who still holds succession rights after her niece and biological nephew. Countess Alexandra, Sarah duchess of York and Diana princess of Wales never had succession rights and there are rules and customs regarding how former wifes of princes are to be titled. |
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Post by Lord Wilingram on Aug 13, 2009 3:48:30 GMT
Actually, I think the Danes handled divorce much better than their British counterparts. Stripping them of their HRH before they had remarried seemed unusually bitter and vitriolic given the years of service and children they gave to the Royal House. That the children outranked their mother(s) was laughable. In fact the whole reason George VI declined the HRH to Wallis Simpson as her right as Duchess of Windsor was because once the title had been given, it was unprecedented to have it removed. The Queen of england had to make the new rules for divorced spouses of HRHs.
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Post by HRISMH Duke Rico on Sept 2, 2009 15:14:56 GMT
Actually, I think the Danes handled divorce much better than their British counterparts. Stripping them of their HRH before they had remarried seemed unusually bitter and vitriolic given the years of service and children they gave to the Royal House. That the children outranked their mother(s) was laughable. In fact the whole reason George VI declined the HRH to Wallis Simpson as her right as Duchess of Windsor was because once the title had been given, it was unprecedented to have it removed. The Queen of england had to make the new rules for divorced spouses of HRHs. Queen Elizabeth didn't make new rules in the Letters Patent regarding the use of HRH by former wifes of princes. She put in writing what was already in practice. |
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Post by paulchen on Sept 2, 2009 17:09:07 GMT
Whilst I think the Danish Royal Family handled the divorce of Joachim and Alexandra well, what alternative would the British Royal Family have with Diana and Sarah? They became HRHs because they married princes. What did they expect in getting divorced? You can't have your cake and eat it!
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Post by Lord Wilingram on Sept 6, 2009 23:12:25 GMT
FROM THe Independent:
Changes to royal titles after divorce to get new guidelines
Wednesday, 28 August 1996
New guidelines over changes to royal titles after divorce are to be issued on the authority of the Queen. But Buckingham Palace denied any snub to the Princess of Wales was intended by making the announcement, in the official London Gazette, in the week of her divorce.
The announcement, expected to appear later in the week, is the result of full consideration of the issues raised by the two royal divorces this year, a spokeswoman said. The "letters patent" entry would announce formal guidelines on general principles about the dropping of the style "Her Royal Highness" in the event of divorce. Both the Duchess of York and the Princess have lost the right to be called "HRH" under the terms of their divorce settlements.
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