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Post by luisvillegas on Sept 18, 2008 2:37:43 GMT
As far as I know, many women would like to be princesses either by heritage or by marriage. However, I am not sure what ALL women think. Help me find it out!
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Post by urcute08 on Oct 19, 2008 0:02:31 GMT
Everyone wants to be one but not everyone doesn't undrestand the responsibility. HEAPS of resposibility.
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Post by Ibelieveinfairytales on Oct 21, 2008 13:40:30 GMT
I'm not sure that ALL women would want to be princesses. I would say there are SOME women but not all. But it's like that with any role isn't it? You can't really generalize something like this. It's like saying ALL women want to get married and have children. It's not true. Being a princess is not something women can realistically aspire to. If they want to at all. And in a way it seems as though you're nothing more than a clothes horse, viewed for your appearance and little else. The current Crown Princesses (those that married into royalty) are intelligent, and accomplished and the fact that they are princesses probably has more to do with luck than any deliberate attempt at fullfilling a fantasy or childhood dream. For me, I would love to be a princess because of the idea of having a page in the history books. But even then it would be better to have earned that page because of my own achievements and not because of who I married. Princess Marilyn has a nice ring to it though.  |
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Post by luisvillegas on Oct 23, 2008 2:57:50 GMT
Ibelieveinfairytales,
In fact my hypothesis is that most women want to be princesses. Of course, not all of them know what means to be a princess in reality. For some it equals to luxury, passionate love; for others it equals to responsibilities, political duty, patriotism; for others it equals to a personal realization stage in their lives; and so on. "Being a princess" has different meanings to different people, but still they want to be a princess. So princesses become role models that most women follow. At least, this is my hypothesis.
Yes, yes I know. Making reality the dream of becoming a princess is a hard goal in life. But the fact that one can achieve it, as history has proved it, is enough for many women to keep their dreams alive. For you it may mean a strike of luck; for others may mean a set of steps of personal realization. Of course, it still continues to be a tough road.
Finally, I think you can still have a page in the history books. You need not to be a princess to achieve a prestigious place. Princesses have the benefit of publicity and easy access to select circles. But we all can make an excellent work on Earth. At least, every day I know people who excel at their field of work and are given a page in the history books.
With this poll I want to find who the women look for when trying to define a role model for themselves. My guess is that princesses fulfill that place.
Best,
Luis R. Villegas H.
Mexico.
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Post by Ibelieveinfairytales on Oct 23, 2008 17:42:23 GMT
Please note that this is my opinion and not representative of what most women want. In fact my hypothesis is that most women want to be princesses. Ooops, I guess I got the wrong impression when I looked at the first two options in your poll!  Being a princess" has different meanings to different people, but still they want to be a princess. I disagree. Maybe treated like a princess (who doesn't?), respected, but I don't think all women want to be a princess or would die to do so. So princesses become role models that most women follow. At least, this is my hypothesis. There are many role models for women to follow. Realistic role models for women to follow. Being a princess is not a realistic role model, regardless of how you decide to interpret it. I will venture a guess that a parent, parental figure, or a teacher is more likely to be a significant and continuous role model in a woman's life than a princess. But the fact that one can achieve it, as history has proved it, is enough for many women to keep their dreams alive. For you it may mean a strike of luck; for others may mean a set of steps of personal realization. Agreed, it's possible. But I'm going to argue that the Crown Princesses of today did not find personal realization in becoming royal. If you look at the biographies of each of the current crop, all of them were accomplished and educated in their fields. I highly doubt they felt there was something missing in their lives until their prince came along. Masako of Japan needed to be convinced to marry her husband. That's how unappealing she found the idea of giving up her freedom in order to marry into that royal family. No role should define you as a person. It is something that needs/should come from within. (At least that's what my self help books tell me!) Having said that though. You might find the book Someday My Prince Will Come by Jerramy Fine to be interesting because it covers this very topic. A real woman, wanting to become a princess, and finding personal realization along the way. I highly recomment it. Finally, I think you can still have a page in the history books. You need not to be a princess to achieve a prestigious place. Princesses have the benefit of publicity and easy access to select circles. But we all can make an excellent work on Earth. At least, every day I know people who excel at their field of work and are given a page in the history books. Exactly right! You do not need to become a princess to make your mark in life. That's why I disagree with the idea that most women look to princesses as role models. If this were the case there would be a lot of frustrated women in the world because they would be looking to a position that is unattainble. Consider the lack of opportunities out there at the moment. There's Prince William, Prince Harry, Prince Carl Phillip of Sweden, Prince Albert of Monaco as some examples. The amount of women in the world outweigh the choices. Now if you think that most women are going to settle for some of these men, who are going to continue to pine away, who are going to walk over broken glass in order to get to them, then good for those who make that choice. But don't you think that most women should be finding something better to do with their time? With this poll I want to find who the women look for when trying to define a role model for themselves. My guess is that princesses fulfill that place. For all my interest in royalty (26 years from the time I was an impressionable teenager to now) I have never, ever looked to princesses as role models. But this is just one woman's viewpoint. Just out of interest though. Do all men want to be Prince's and Kings? Do men look to those positions for role models? |
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Post by luisvillegas on Oct 30, 2008 4:02:12 GMT
Dear Ibelieveinfairytales,
Thank you very much for your realistic and intelligent reflections.
You helped me to see that points of view may vary a lot from dreamy to grounded-to-earth women. I must say that each profile has its own benefits. My own personal opinion is that you must achieve a balance between both profiles: Dreams help you to achieve bigger accomplishments while being grounded-to-earth helps you stick to the essential things of life.
But, you gave me an important clue: I think I will need to change my poll. Is it possible to change the options' labels of this poll? I would like to change the following:
1. Change "Definitely yes, we all would die to be a princess." for "Definitely yes, I would die to be a princess."
2. Change "Yes, we all would like to be a princess." for "Yes, I would like to be a princess.” and
3. Change "Definitely no, we all would hate to be a princess." for "Definitely no, I would hate to be a princess."
The problem is that deciding about your dreams is already complicated so, I do not want visitors to decided for the rest of the women but only for themselves. Is it possible to change the labels or I need to create a new poll?
Finally about your inquiry "Do all men want to be Prince's and Kings? Do men look to those positions for role models?" I have to say:
From my point of view, I think the answer is "yes". However, I have to specify that not all men want to be princes or kings in the political arena. This is, men want to be princes or kings in a variety of environments. For example: "The prince of women" (for a person that wants to be a heart breaker), "The king of business" (for a person that wants to be a successful business man), "The king of the family" (for a person that wants to be a unique father), and so on. The leadership position of princes and kings is used by men in different aspects of their lives.
Luis R. Villegas H.
Mexico.
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Post by Cinderella on Oct 30, 2008 4:32:30 GMT
I don't think it's possible to modify the poll options, but you can start a new poll if you want.
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Post by luisvillegas on Nov 6, 2008 3:06:43 GMT
Hello, Cinderella!
Yes, I will start a new poll. It will be very similar to this one.
Hugs,
Luis R. Villegas H.
Mexico.
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Post by briar69rose on Sept 2, 2009 0:20:07 GMT
I think in our minds wel all think we are or were little princesses in our younger years I think that is a youth type of thing that goes through girls minds wether we are by birth rite or not
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Post by thinair on Sept 7, 2009 9:54:16 GMT
It´s like any other job- you need the right training. Diana should never have become Princess of Wales. She has no trainign. I think Princes should marry princesses. We would never have hd divorce in the Royal family (except for Margarite who had a drinking problem) if they had all married within the Royal families. there are enough of them to go around for all. Now divorce is spreading in the Royal families all over Europe.
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Post by Ibelieveinfairytales on Sept 7, 2009 15:57:05 GMT
I think Princes should marry princesses. We would never have hd divorce in the Royal family (except for Margarite who had a drinking problem) if they had all married within the Royal families. there are enough of them to go around for all. Now divorce is spreading in the Royal families all over Europe. I actually think that there aren't very many options for royals to marry royals at all. It's not like it was in the past where first cousins could marry each other. The options for today's royals are limited. Maybe, just maybe there was a chance for William or Harry to marry one of the Swedish princesses, but I don't think it would have been considered as a serious option. Monaco is out because they're Catholic. There are no royals of contemporary age for William in the Dutch or Danish House. So I don't think there are many options at all for royals to marry royals. If they were to hold out for this then by the looks of it they wouldn't marry at all. |
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