Post by paulchen on Mar 15, 2008 18:19:54 GMT
If memory serves me right, there was thread on the old site about HM King George V's Coat of Arms as Duke of York.
George was, of course, the second son of HM King Edward VII and his Queen, Alexandra and ended up, after the death of his elder brother HRH Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence, with a three-pointed label [as the now eldest surviving son of a Prince of Wales] with a blue anchor which seems to have become the tradition for the Duke of York. There was speculation of a five-pointed label with the anchor before Albert Victor's death when George would have been simply a grandchild of a monarch, but no evidence of it being allocated. I have, however, found evidence of its use.
I am spending the weekend in Windsor and went round the castle [well worth a visit] this morning. As you go into St George's Chapel, look up at the two stained glass windows high up opposite. They show the Coats of Arms of Garter Knights as the Chapel is the focal point for the Order. On the bottom row of the lefthand window are the Coats of Arms for Albert Victor and George, presumably at the time of their investitures sometime in the 1880s [the dates are obscured] and George's label definately has five points.
Not conclusive, but at least it's evidence. Because of the Order of the Garter Windsor Castle, especially the restored St George's Hall, and St George's Chapel with its stained glass are great sources of research for Royal Heraldry. And not just British.
As a PS, the Garter stall for HRH The Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex is the only one for a member of the British Royal Family not in the main row. He has to make do with being "round the corner" next to HRH Prince Jean, former Grand Duke of Luxembourg. Not because he is an Earl and not a Duke, but because there isn't any room!
As another PS, the shields for TRH The Duke of York and the Earl of Wessex haven't yet been put up in St George's Hall.
George was, of course, the second son of HM King Edward VII and his Queen, Alexandra and ended up, after the death of his elder brother HRH Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence, with a three-pointed label [as the now eldest surviving son of a Prince of Wales] with a blue anchor which seems to have become the tradition for the Duke of York. There was speculation of a five-pointed label with the anchor before Albert Victor's death when George would have been simply a grandchild of a monarch, but no evidence of it being allocated. I have, however, found evidence of its use.
I am spending the weekend in Windsor and went round the castle [well worth a visit] this morning. As you go into St George's Chapel, look up at the two stained glass windows high up opposite. They show the Coats of Arms of Garter Knights as the Chapel is the focal point for the Order. On the bottom row of the lefthand window are the Coats of Arms for Albert Victor and George, presumably at the time of their investitures sometime in the 1880s [the dates are obscured] and George's label definately has five points.
Not conclusive, but at least it's evidence. Because of the Order of the Garter Windsor Castle, especially the restored St George's Hall, and St George's Chapel with its stained glass are great sources of research for Royal Heraldry. And not just British.
As a PS, the Garter stall for HRH The Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex is the only one for a member of the British Royal Family not in the main row. He has to make do with being "round the corner" next to HRH Prince Jean, former Grand Duke of Luxembourg. Not because he is an Earl and not a Duke, but because there isn't any room!
As another PS, the shields for TRH The Duke of York and the Earl of Wessex haven't yet been put up in St George's Hall.