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Post by dukeofearl on Nov 17, 2009 20:02:37 GMT
i may be off on the name (forgive me oh mighty Tories) but i thought i read somewhere that the Tory leady, and prob next British PM, is descended from William IV of England (dunno what of Scots but it wasnt the IV)..sooooo, can he address the queen as cousin ;D
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hovite
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Post by hovite on Nov 17, 2009 23:44:13 GMT
William IV of England (dunno what of Scots but it wasnt the IV) III of Scots, but the highest number wins, so he is IV. Everyone is related to the Queen. |
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Post by sullyo on Nov 18, 2009 13:04:40 GMT
And Boris Johnson is descended from King George II !
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Post by observer on Nov 20, 2009 0:11:51 GMT
i may be off on the name (forgive me oh mighty Tories) but i thought i read somewhere that the Tory leady, and prob next British PM, is descended from William IV of England (dunno what of Scots but it wasnt the IV)..sooooo, can he address the queen as cousin ;D David Cameron, the Tory Leader, is a great-great-great-great-great-grandson of King William IV (who died in 1837), descended from one of his illegitimate children - Elizabeth FitzClarence, later wife to the 18th Earl of Errol. He is a fifth cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II. I imagine it would be extremely presumptuous to call her 'cousin' to her face. |
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Post by dukeofearl on Nov 23, 2009 21:14:07 GMT
i may be off on the name (forgive me oh mighty Tories) but i thought i read somewhere that the Tory leady, and prob next British PM, is descended from William IV of England (dunno what of Scots but it wasnt the IV)..sooooo, can he address the queen as cousin ;D David Cameron, the Tory Leader, is a great-great-great-great-great-grandson of King William IV (who died in 1837), descended from one of his illegitimate children - Elizabeth FitzClarence, later wife to the 18th Earl of Errol. He is a fifth cousin, twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II. I imagine it would be extremely presumptuous to call her 'cousin' to her face. and yet he is just that..her cousin..so whats presumptuous about it? |
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Post by observer on Nov 23, 2009 23:32:31 GMT
Cameron would be presumptuous to address Queen Elizabeth as 'cousin' because of the tenuousness of the relationship (5th cousin twice removed is not a close relationship), the relationship is through an illegitimate line, she is his sovereign, and even closer cousins (Queen Margrethe of Denmark, for example) address her as 'Her Majesty' in public.
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Post by sullyo on Feb 12, 2010 13:53:04 GMT
His wife is also descended from King Charles II.
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