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Post by Lord Wilingram on May 1, 2008 22:45:33 GMT
Just read the Miss Kelly, the future Mrs. Peter Phillips has decided to convert to the Church of England. Do you think this was a move to stifle debate over the topic of abolition of the Act of Settlement clause barring Catholics from the throne. Also, do we think the queen will see fit to grant her eldest grandchild, and first grandchild to marry, a title befitting someone so close to the throne? May I suggest Comte du Montreal!
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Post by paulchen on May 3, 2008 12:32:09 GMT
Firstly, even as an Anglican, I think it is a shame that Autumn Kelly has given up her faith for the Church of England. I am what I am and she is what she is. I only hope it was her own decision and that she wasn't leant on a) Because it looks like the "Powers that be" have the upper hand or b) Deliberately to keep Peter Phillips in the Line of Succession in a "false" way, because it appears to give the message that the Laws of Succession won't be changed.
Peter Phillips's position isn't so important as any change to primogeniture will surely not be retroactive, whatever is introduced, and his mother will still be behind her younger brothers and their descendants. There are enough cousins to cope with succession problems, even a sister. Imagine Queen Zara!
I think it sends the wrong message out, that Roman Catholics [specifically] don't matter. I still believe that whoever actually ends up ascending the throne needs to maintain the right of people to practise their religion - a focal point as head of state. Perhaps Prince Charles's idea of being Defender of Faith rather than the Faith isn't so silly...
Like I say, I hope it was purely Autumn's own idea.
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Post by donald1941 on May 4, 2008 0:34:36 GMT
I wonder if Miss Kelly had changed her religious affiliation from, say the Methodist denomination or the Lutheran, to the Church of England there would have been all the fuss made about it. The Roman Catholics who are decraying her change would be clapping their hands in joy if she had converted from whatever to Roman Catholicism. I supposed it is all in perspective.
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Post by hovite on May 5, 2008 8:15:01 GMT
Just read the Miss Kelly, the future Mrs. Peter Phillips has decided to convert to the Church of England. Do you think this was a move to stifle debate over the topic of abolition of the Act of Settlement clause barring Catholics from the throne. Changing the Act of Settlement would be difficult, it would probably take many years to get through Parliament, and the present government would be unlikely to go anywhere near it. They already have enough problems with their bungled reform of the House of Lords. It was probably easier for everyone if Autumn joined the Church of England. Also, do we think the queen will see fit to grant her eldest grandchild, and first grandchild to marry, a title befitting someone so close to the throne? May I suggest Comte du Montreal! That is unlikely to happen because Anne is reported to be strongly against titles for her children as they are not royal. Also, I believe that there is an Act of Parliament in Canada that prevents titles.
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Post by Ibelieveinfairytales on May 6, 2008 18:16:46 GMT
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Post by sullyo on May 6, 2008 21:05:59 GMT
Peter Phillips proposed to his fiancee during a rain shower as they walked the dog !.
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Post by donald1941 on May 7, 2008 18:20:26 GMT
I think that is rather romantic. She claims she didn't know his grandmother was Queen until she saw him on television in some event. He says that he didn't see any reason to tell her as it wasn't important in their relationship. They have gotten 500,000 pounds for an exlcusive interview with photos from Hello magazine. Some palace officials are leery of this based on past experience. It seems William and Kate will not be attending the wedding as they had booked plans prior to Williams deployment with the Royal Navy. It also seems that Chelsey is going to be formally introduced to the Queen by Prince Harry during the wedding, making the two's relationship more or less approved.
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Post by Lord Wilingram on May 8, 2008 20:44:49 GMT
Remember, the Nickels Act does not apply to British subjects only to Canadians. I think we can safely assume Ms. Kelly will be reliquishing her Canadian citizenship upon marriage.
BTW- Princess Ann may abhor titles for her children but I do think it is still up to the Queen as the Fount of all Honours.
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Post by HRISMH Duke Rico on May 12, 2008 2:49:47 GMT
As a Canadian citizen, Autumn will be able to keep that in addition to holding full British Citizenship. Unless the constitutional structure is changed to a republic, I don't see any reason for her to relinquish her Canadian citizenship as both countries bear allegiance to the same sovereign.
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